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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:30:00 -
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So you have been "risking" your Prospect and a T1 frig and you are disappointed in the rewards? 
Maybe you need to reevaluate what risk is.
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:39:00 -
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Rena Emishi wrote:Raw Matters wrote:It is in fact a joke what you can pull out of null-sec data sites, average is about 8m. Considering that you risk your ship and implants each time you do one, this is hardly compensating. Relic sites are better with about 20-30m per site, but they are hard to find and often contested.
Compared to mission running in high-sec vs site running in null, scanning in high vs null is a tedious and unrewarding task. Granted I have only been to drone space null secs to run data and relic sites... But id be fairly happy with 20-30m per site. I was getting about 4-6mill max. I was left scratching my head thinking I could have brought a ratting ship and made just as much quickly jumpin around the belts.
Drone regions
You're carrying a cargo scanner so you don't waste time at sites that have already had the good stuff cherry picked right?
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:55:00 -
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Rena Emishi wrote:Rowells wrote:"I risked cheapest class of ship in game, and made less when i mined in stronger more appropriate ship in highsec."
how about you actually understand risk before you complain. Use a barge, that is risk. Go in deep NPC space with an exhumer. THAT is serious risk. O shut up troll.. fine take more appropriate ship out of the equation. I can make more isk per hour mining in a venture two jumps out from jita with little to no risk. Than I can using a venture in low sec mining with massive risk and a ton of logistical problems hauling my goods to a trade hub.
What is this massive risk you are perceiving? A 20mil isk frigate?
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:21:00 -
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Rena Emishi wrote:I'm talking about small gang or solo high risk low sec / null sec activates. That's where this game needs to be made more profitable to pull people out of high sec.
How do you propose this is done without giving an even bigger advantage to the large alliances and thus nullifying any changes in the first place?
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:28:00 -
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Rena Emishi wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Rena Emishi wrote:I'm talking about small gang or solo high risk low sec / null sec activates. That's where this game needs to be made more profitable to pull people out of high sec. How do you propose this is done without giving an even bigger advantage to the large alliances and thus nullifying any changes in the first place? Give alliances more of a advantage if needs be... Wouldn't bother me at all. Large alliances compete with other alliances.. who would get the same advantage.
Are you familiar with the economic term "inflation"?
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:36:00 -
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Rena Emishi wrote:I have no idea why you use the term.
Because you are looking at things from your own selfish point of view instead of what is good and bad for the game.
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:39:00 -
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Rena Emishi wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Rena Emishi wrote:I have no idea why you use the term. Because you are looking at things from your own selfish point of view instead of what is good and bad for the game. Whats good for the game in your point of view. Let me guess -> people running multiple accounts afk mining in high sec. or running level 4s with their eyes closed because their is no better way to make money... Ultimately they get bored and quit, because nothing is tempting them to make the jump into low sec / null sec living.
That is a very poor guess. There are plenty of better ways to make money out of Hi-Sec than mining in a prospect or exploring. There are even better ways than your suggestion in Hi-Sec.
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:46:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Rena Emishi wrote:Whats good for the game in your point of view. Let me guess -> people running multiple accounts afk mining in high sec. or running level 4s with their eyes closed because their is no better way to make money... Ultimately they get bored and quit, because nothing is tempting them to make the jump into low sec / null sec living. No. He doesn't want risk v reward to be different than what it currently is, because if people leave highsec, his easy ganks could dry up. He's no less selfish than he thinks you are.
The hubs will always be in Hi-Sec 
Do try to stay on topic, I would be much happier if more people went to low-sec.
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.07.20 00:03:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:The hubs will always be in Hi-Sec Please try to stay on topic before picking on one of my alts. Sure they will. See the edit of my post. But you've been a bit of a **** to the OP in this thread, hoping he can guess at what you mean rather than just openly saying it in simple terms. Alt, main, whatever, a **** is a ****.
I am never going to be nice to entitled players. Neither should you.
Im not hoping he will guess, I am trying to get him to think for himself and see the bigger picture.
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
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